diera
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Post by diera on Apr 16, 2010 9:02:49 GMT -5
Has anyone read 'Stuff: Compulsive hoarding and the meaning of things' by Frost and Steketee? I just took it out of the library last night and it's fascinating. I think it's pretty new so it may just be hitting libraries now.
They profile a number of hoarders and it's both embarrassing and enlightening how much I resemble them and how many of the documented personality traits I see in myself.
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2010 9:09:14 GMT -5
I have not read it or seen it yet but thank you for the heads up about it. I am still reading "Digging Out" and that is really good. It's not right here by my computer right now but it's really helpful in introducing the harm reduction theory and how to help someone dig out (in my case I'm helping myself and my DH).
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Post by hopehope on Apr 17, 2010 1:01:21 GMT -5
who wrote digging out?
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Apr 17, 2010 14:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Apr 17, 2010 14:55:43 GMT -5
Has anyone read 'Stuff: Compulsive hoarding and the meaning of things' by Frost and Steketee? I just took it out of the library last night and it's fascinating. I think it's pretty new so it may just be hitting libraries now.
They profile a number of hoarders and it's both embarrassing and enlightening how much I resemble them and how many of the documented personality traits I see in myself. by Randy Frost and Gail Steketee Official publication date is 20th April 2010 -- but ... it seems to have come out a few weeks earlier than planned. ISBN-10: 015101423X ISBN-13: 978-0151014231 Full write-up and interview with the authors at Amazon: - |
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on May 11, 2010 9:58:06 GMT -5
- Interview with Frost and Steketee about their book "Stuff" and also text quoting one chapter from "Stuff" here: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126386317The chapter from the book "Stuff" quoted in that NPR article ... is Randy Frost telling of his EARLY years of hoarding research. In those days, Randy Frost was doing OCD research at Smith College, where he was (and still is) a professor of psychology. He was doing this research with a student assistant named Tamara Hartl. This would have been circa 1995-1997. Dr. Frost and student Hartl helped the woman "Irene" over a long period of time.
Incidentally, the "student assistant" Tamara Hartl from 15 years ago, now has a practice in California, and is the author of the book "Digging Out", which is described/reviewed on this thread: SOS reviews of book "Digging Out":takeonestepatatime.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=10013
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Post by ponygirl on May 11, 2010 10:08:53 GMT -5
"Stuff" just received a pretty good review in WSJ.
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on May 11, 2010 13:13:25 GMT -5
"Stuff" just received a pretty good review in WSJ. WSJ = Wall Street Journal I found this WSJ review online: tinyurl.com/26vfba5Unfortunately, the W.S.J. reviewer has already been watching the sensationalized television programs about hoarding. A&E cable TV series "Hoarders"
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TLC cable TV series "Hoarding: Buried Alive" The reviewer thinks those TV series are an accurate depiction of what hoarding is ... and how it should be handled. He seems to think that the approaches described in the book "Stuff"are too gentle and slow. He seems to be saying that the approaches in the book don't have enough "tough-love". Sigh. The WSJ reviewer doesn't realize that the approaches in the book seem to have better success over long term. And he doesn't realize that the quick clean-outs on the A&E show "Hoarders" usually don't help the person have lasting recovery.
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Post by ponygirl on May 11, 2010 15:17:03 GMT -5
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on May 31, 2010 7:21:02 GMT -5
- Thanks, ponygirl!  - |
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on May 31, 2010 7:35:08 GMT -5
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Post by WestsideStory on May 31, 2010 19:44:42 GMT -5
Thanks, Lioness and all for posting these links.
I went ahead and ordered Stuff, along with the Buried in Treasures lay person's book, work book and therapists guide ... haven't arrived yet, but I look forward to reading them.
WestsideStory
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Post by WestsideStory on Jun 3, 2010 2:39:17 GMT -5
The book Stuff arrived and I devoured it in two days. Now, I'm going to read through it more sljowly. On the first read through, I found it very accurate, exceptionally compassionate and understanding, and wonderfully non-judgmental. Some of the stories and experiences shared there touched really close to home. Really close to home. Really close. And I am so grateful that it was published. It was very accurate in describing all the various factors (genetic, emotional, environmental, sociological, etc.) which contribute to clutter/hoarding/stuff. Interestingly, the authors made a point of mentioning incidents of clutter/hoarding which occurred in other, non-Western/First World countries and cultures and historic incidences from the 1800's and early 1900's. It is not a recent development or limited to modern consumer-oriented cultures. The book is out only in hardback at the moment, but I was able to get a copy at a significant discount through an on-line seller. (List price is $27 US.) Like dierra, I'd be interested in talking to others SOS siblings who've read it. There's a lot of me in there, for better or worse  WestsideStory |
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Post by Script on Jun 3, 2010 7:45:04 GMT -5
* my mom clipped out a review of this book from some magazine ("People"?)
* i needed a 'treat' one day, so ordered it on-line ['stay out of stores' mantra]
* i read it in about 1.5 days: totally engrossing. There was someone I 'knew' on every page, myself included
HOWEVER..........
*i do NOT need to keep it, and so
*i put it in the library give-away bag [they take NEWish books only]
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Post by ponygirl on Jun 3, 2010 10:30:12 GMT -5
I haven't purchased a book in years (self-imposed to reduce book clutter); I might have to make an exception for this one. I'll check my library first.
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