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Post by success19 on Aug 5, 2012 20:33:48 GMT -5
On tonight's show - the couples septic tank has leaked into the house and destroyed most of the home. Worst situation I have ever seen.
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Post by misssue on Aug 5, 2012 21:10:54 GMT -5
I have it set to record, later tonight.. and do get your septic tank pumped, every year. I am here alone for the most part, so for one person, every 2 years good.. and my homeowners insurance, I have a sewer/septic tank rider added on, allows 10,000 for clean up if it did happen. A good thing to have.
I worked with a woman, divorced like me, and she neglected to spend the 130.00 fee to have it pumped out. Like many people depressed after a divorce just let some things go. She had it back up. It was horrible, and I did not remember the insurance coverage when we were talking, but called her back, and said any chance you have it on your homeowners, She did!
My big fear, my septic fails and I have to replace it.. about 15,000 to have a new system put in. I try and follow all the rules to maintain it.
I can not watch Hoarders before I go to bed... and I know some here can not watch at all. I have empathy for all, those here in tough situations. There but by the grace go I.
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Post by success19 on Aug 5, 2012 21:22:11 GMT -5
For some reason this couple just shut down and let it all slide for many years. They usually have two segments for each episode - this was just one. I won't discuss it much since many people don't want to know what happens. Sometimes I tape it too. I don't know much about septic tanks - I know I had grandparents that had them and some other relatives when I was a child. I guess the fees are similar to what a person would pay for sewage bills. I have that included in my rent so I don't know what it would cost.
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Post by CaringFriend on Aug 6, 2012 19:13:51 GMT -5
This was the worst case of denial I have ever seen. The wife couldn't understand the big deal about having fecal matter all over the place. How could it be any different than "smelling your own poop?" She thought the original "outsider" was using her degree to humiliate them because she couldn't specify the exact dangers they were being exposed to. When the next specialist came and gave her names of specific diseases, wifey still seemed arrogant and didn't want to believe her either. She seemed angry that the workers who came donned hazmat suits. As the leader of that group said, "You can't even take the chance of having this splash in your face while you're removing things."
It seemed as if, when they were faced at every turn with the consequences of their inaction, they wanted to blame it on something else entirely. I think it was another fantasy when their plan at the end was to sell it and find another house.
Usually during the program, it is revealed what sent the homeowner into their downward spiral - usually the death of a loved one. I didn't hear anything like that, or maybe I missed it.
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Post by joyinvirginia on Aug 6, 2012 20:16:00 GMT -5
Just to clarify - Hoarders is on A&E. Hoarding Buried Alive is on TLC and is not as good in my opinion.
Hoarders on A&E is produced by Screaming Flea productions and has Corey Chalmers, Matt Paxton, and Dorothy Brenninger is one of the producers, and they actually work on matching the right mental health pro to the hoarder.
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Post by Blackswan on Aug 6, 2012 20:48:02 GMT -5
Things are hard when De Nile is a river of human waste.  |
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Post by Guest on Aug 7, 2012 5:36:01 GMT -5
Just to clarify - Hoarders is on A&E. Hoarding Buried Alive is on TLC and is not as good in my opinion. Hoarders on A&E is produced by Screaming Flea productions and has Corey Chalmers, Matt Paxton, and Dorothy Brenninger is one of the producers, and they actually work on matching the right mental health pro to the hoarder. Which one is the one the OP is talking about? Also can you watch it online, and if so where please? |
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Post by downandout on Aug 7, 2012 8:04:46 GMT -5
 that was good Swan!! i saw that show last night and i felt so very bad for the couple.  i wanted to just let them know that they are still good people you know? but i did wonder about the selling of the house. i mean wouldnt you condem the property with that kind of damage? at the very least i hope the real estate agents and the couple are very straightforward with any potential buyers and let them know what kind of conditions were in the house so the new owners can protect themselves.
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Post by success19 on Aug 7, 2012 11:32:31 GMT -5
I noticed they changed counselors in the middle of the show. The film crew I hope was wearing hazmet suits too. I found this show dissatisfactory - they never really got in to what was motivating this couple - what was the trigger- or triggers. . I don't think they were telling the truth about the septic tank and the length of time the house had sewage in it. I wouldn't think this house would be safe to live in ever. There was too much mold and damage. Not to mention the deceased cat that had mummified - that had to smell in the beginning.
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Post by misssue on Aug 7, 2012 23:26:25 GMT -5
This is probably the most denial I have ever seen. AND I mean not just hoarding! I agree so with CaringFriend and what she wrote! The whole using the degree was done very crafty like, she obviously over the years used that technique of attacking the person to refuse help and certainly was never going to admit that she had any problems. The Surgeon General of the United States could have shown up and explained how fecal matter is dangerous and a hazard, and she would have argued with him!
That house was not able to be sold, other than a tear down, the lot may have been worth something. They HAD to leave and move out, they made it sound like it was their choice, I think not. That house would never pass an inspection for a loan! One thing they don't bring up on the show, often at this level of neglect, taxes are not paid, or they have been fined and can never catch up. If it is not paid for, you still owe the money, even if it is torn down!
At one point, they were not being truthful, he said somewhere that the septic backup had been there for a long time.She did a big dance about the other day, then maybe a week.. that was a long term seepage. They also did not have basement as far as I can tell, it was there first floor. The same with the poor cat.. she crawled off and died, she said, I don't think either of them gave it another thought, or noticed it went missing.. as to a reason,
I also did not think that the Dr changed, and she was a PH.d, they had to bring in someone who specialized in Hazmat situations, who was the two guys taping themselves in suits. As to why this happened, there is not always an out right reason, a death, or divorce, a job loss. What bothered me in this situation was that there are people willing to take help.. but after all this is a reality show, and like all of them, it is meant to be shocking or provoking. I did watch it before I went to bed..not a good idea.
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Post by tangerine on Aug 8, 2012 11:01:23 GMT -5
I felt bad for them, it seemed they did the same thing as my DH and I did - bought a house but then had no money to keep up with repairs and maintenance.
they never really got in to what was motivating this couple - what was the trigger- or triggers.
Success, I was wondering about this too. The woman said something about not knowing the cause, but as a child she'd filled her playhouse with stuff. I suspect I would have done the same thing as a kid if my parents had allowed it. Scary to think I could have been born this way!
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Post by Guest on Aug 8, 2012 13:19:48 GMT -5
The thing about the denial is, and I'm wondering this about a lot of people who seem in denial on these shows, is if they were in private with a therapist, in the office alone and comfortable and not being made to feel humiliated on national televion, would they be as defensive?
I think that it's human nature and just plain survival instinct to make excuses, try to spin things, shift blame, etc when everybody and I mean everybody is looking at you and you are being publically humiliated. Especially if it's being used as a "therapy moment". I've seen several of these shows where the "therapist" walks around and makes faces at their supposed patient's problems and makes comments about them pooping in bags and peeing in jars and shows disgust and then turns right around and with cameras rolling, tries to get that person to open up about stuff even more personal than where they poo and pee. I don't think anybody would really want to open up to people who condesend so much. You know which "therapist" in particular I'm talking about, I've mentioned her before, although she's not on this particular show.
However, I do think it's the same type thing. Imagine if your most embarrassing and humiliating thing you do/have done in private were exposed in front of your entire town and you suddenly had a big crowd gathered in front of your house looking at you in horror and disgust and then somebody asked you to tell them why, really, why and how this happened wouldn't you try to think of some reasonable explination to tell all those people?
I don't think any real progress with therapy could be made in an on camera situation. I think they should go in, film the place at first, then send the people to daily therapy for a couple of weeks, PRIVATE therapy where confidentialy is respected, while putting them up at a hotel or something, THEN come back in and have the people and therapist and crews in there doing the work.
It may not be as interesting to watch, but it would probably do a lot more to help the people than just pointing fingers and going "ewwwwww why?" which is what they do there to begin with.
But I do watch the shows. It's like I can't not watch them when they are on.
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Post by success19 on Aug 8, 2012 13:29:56 GMT -5
I thought they also offer counseling before or after? I just felt this show did not go into enough depth for answers to what was really going on. I think a sister was trying to hep too? I understand they didn't perhaps have money for the septic tank thing - but they did let stuff pile up for years. But maybe it was just dumpster diving types of stuff - maybe they did have a money issue too. But the wife - did go make sure she looked clean outside the home - I think she said she did this for years. I just have a lot of questions about this one. For instance - did they even get a shovel or something and try to get the waste off the floors - and maybe bury it or put it in buckets or something?
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Post by Ally on Aug 8, 2012 20:46:21 GMT -5
FYI, Not all septic tanks need to be pumped regularly.
My parent's had one for 40 years and I don't think it was ever pumped up until they hooked up to the sewer 10 years ago.
I have lived in my house for 25 years and never have had the septic tank pumped. I've never had a problem.
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Post by casper on Aug 8, 2012 21:47:33 GMT -5
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