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Post by grammea on Sept 25, 2019 22:44:31 GMT -5
Hello friends,
I was just wondering if any of you watch hoarding shoes such as Hoarders , Hoarding:Buried Alive , or How Clean Is Your House.
If you do watch do they make you feel better?, worse? ,
Are they a help or a hindrance?
I am practically addicted to them and quite frequently they serve as motivation to me (Hey , whatever works , right?)
For instance tonight I am watching a marathon of Hoarding:Buried Alive and I am getting up during each and every commercial and doing something.
I have brought out boxes from the closet to go through during the show keeping a trash bag by my side.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.
Helen(Grammea)
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Post by momof3boys on Sept 26, 2019 7:15:11 GMT -5
I like all of those shows and obsessive compulsive cleaners as well. I think some of the shows are motivating.
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Post by dtesposito on Sept 26, 2019 9:43:37 GMT -5
I think that if the shows motivate people to clean up, that's great--they should watch them.
I've seen a handful of episodes of the hoarding shows, they upset me for a couple of reasons--they obviously set up situations to provoke conflict between the family members to make for an interesting show--I'm quite sure they coach the family members in how to get a reaction from the hoarder. I think there have been enough shows aired now that anyone agreeing to be on the show should know what to expect, and at this point the hoarder is probably also doing some "acting" in order to please the show producers. But I pity the people who were in the first episodes and didn't know what to expect.
The other reason I don't like them is that they consider the problem "solved" by having people come in to cart everything away. The house full of stuff is not the problem, it's the mindset of the hoarder that is the problem, and one week (or however long a period the show covers) is not sufficient time for a hoarder to process the psychological impact of getting rid of everything in the house. I understand that they offer some kind of counseling, but the impression people get from the show that after a few explosions of emotion, having a crew take everything away takes care of it and the hoarding is over with.
I've only seen a couple of the cleaning shows, those were many, many years ago and they were British shows. They were better because although they were showing the dirty house, they did not provoke the house owners to show some hysterical scenes so that the show would be more interesting.
Some people say that the hoarding shows are good because they bring hoarding into the public spotlight and they point out that sometimes, hoarding happens because of traumatic events that have happened to people. I guess that's true, but I can't help thinking that it would be a lot more helpful if they didn't purposely prod the hoarder into being upset, and if they showed the more honest process of working through the hoarding behavior over the years that it usually takes to extinguish it. But of course, that would not be such a shocking and interesting show to the general public, so they would never be able to keep making the shows!
I just hope the shows don't make relatives of hoarders think that the answer is to just empty the house out (with or without the person's permission) and that the problem can be fixed in a week.
As I said, if the shows are motivating, I'm all for people watching them. I myself have been motivated by having a pet care client who is a hoarder. Seeing her house and more importantly, hearing how her justifications for her hoarding mirrored some of the thoughts I had, was very helpful in my journey to change. So, wherever we can get motivation, go for it.
Diane
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Post by casper on Sept 26, 2019 10:05:12 GMT -5
I have watched all sorts of hoarding shows.
But I found something I like a whole lot better on Youtube.
People post video blogs of their own personal journeys to declutter, organize and clean their own homes.
You get to "know" the person as they talk about their feelings, thoughts and struggles as they work.
It's like watching someone here from this message board, a real person without the drama of a staged and edited show.
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Post by def6 on Sept 27, 2019 8:36:13 GMT -5
Hello grammeaI am a long time fan of " How Clean is Your House" The show is pure genius and I never get tired of watching it. I also like "Obsessive Compulsive Cleaners" I have actually had periods of time in my life where I cleaned just like the people they feature on this show. |
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Post by Little_Ninja on Sept 29, 2019 17:44:55 GMT -5
I find the hoarding shows very inspirational for me (like, "well, at least I'm not THAT bad with my hoard and am psychologically/healthily aware that I have a problem that I need to confront!"). I recently signed-up for Amazon Prime video and watched " Beyond Hoarding." I had so much empathy for the older individuals in that video. I had a recent charity pickup that I was very distressed over in gathering up items at the last minute to put in giveaway boxes. I've learned from that experience that I need to complete small tasks/accomplishments each day and gather up items on a weekly basis in order to be fully prepared for the next charity pickup. I'm now in the position where I go through a pile and think "why the 'eff did I buy or save this?" My current goals are to clear out my house for major home improvements.    Little_NinjaEdited to add: I've been binge-watching Hoarding: Buried Alive on Amazon Prime video. Season 2, Episode 10 titled "Overwhelming Pile of Junk" devotes a complete episode to one hoarder (a retired flight attendant). By the end of the episode, the hoarder was resistant to help and recovery. The episode was filmed over nine years ago. It was so sad to see a failed attempt to help this woman. |
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Post by downandout on Sept 30, 2019 6:46:34 GMT -5
I love the hoarding shows! Whenever i feel unmotivated I watch one and it always makes me get up and do something! I have huge respect for everyone who participates on these shows.
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Post by nonchalant on Sept 30, 2019 7:19:23 GMT -5
I don't know.
i used to find it motivating. I'd clean like mad after each show. But then I began to find it depressing. Like, 'Oh, here we are, our little team of chirpy experts, and if you just do as we say everything will be fine!'
Okay. It's good that there's a dumpster or three, and a team of people putting things in it. But I don't believe there is ever any quick fix, and some aspects of these programs made me feel as though they were doing nothing more than trotting out freaks in a sideshow for us to gape at.
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Post by clutterbuggles on Sept 30, 2019 8:06:27 GMT -5
I used to watch, but ultimately is get depressed because I'm overwhelmed to begin with and have no resources to help me. We hired someone to help us a couple of years ago, but they didn't finish the job and I want well enough at the time to continue and before long it was awful again. Having the means to get help and continued support is a dream.
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Post by def6 on Oct 1, 2019 21:42:45 GMT -5
Here's a good one:
Kim sticks her hand down the "loo." ..Ungloved..
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Post by creativechaos on Oct 4, 2019 12:41:05 GMT -5
thank you for starting this thread. i read with interest and watched that episode of "How Clean is Your House (thanks, def6 !) OMG! i can't believe that guy smiled through it all - i would have been horrified to have those ladies see - and i loved those ladies  - especially Kim. And what great cleaning tips! i have watched some hoarding shows and documentaries, being a hoarder. Sometimes it motivates me, sometimes depresses me. Always it scares me. There, but for degree, go i. i like the British shows better than the American ones; they seem more compassionate toward hoarders. But truth be known, and I know this first hand, having lost everything but the backpack on my back: if the inner issues aren't dealt with, a hoarder re-hoards. No forced or quickie cleanup is going to fix the problem of hoarding because it's an inside job, with outside activities backing up the changes in thinking that HAVE to go with any sustained success. I see it clearly, and i am not there yet.  |
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Post by digitalmagpie on Oct 4, 2019 17:10:12 GMT -5
Another British TV show folk might find interesting/helpful- a daughter helping her Mum to deal with her hoard. Be warned that it gets very emotional at points.
The presenter (Jasmine Harman) went on to do a documentary about hoarders in Britain:
She also did a documentary on compulsive shopping:
Sorry if I haven't posted these links correctly - long time lurker but only 2nd post. Thank you all for being so wonderful and please know that your posts support, encourage and help the lurkers too x
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Post by Alexandra on Nov 18, 2019 12:41:36 GMT -5
I don't know.
i used to find it motivating. I'd clean like mad after each show. But then I began to find it depressing. Like, 'Oh, here we are, our little team of chirpy experts, and if you just do as we say everything will be fine!'
Okay. It's good that there's a dumpster or three, and a team of people putting things in it. But I don't believe there is ever any quick fix, and some aspects of these programs made me feel as though they were doing nothing more than trotting out freaks in a sideshow for us to gape at. There is definitely that aspect. I've listened to Opie and Anthony's take on it (they can be a tad merciless, fair warning), and Opie guesses that they do this under the guise of "helping" the hoarders--"'Cause we all wanna see f***ing freaks!" On the other hand...it tends to motivate me a bit.
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Post by nonchalant on Nov 18, 2019 14:18:02 GMT -5
I'm afraid I don't know who Opie and Anthony are.
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Post by TML on Nov 18, 2019 17:06:56 GMT -5
I used to watch them with Mom as a couple of episodes used the same excuses she used and I wanted her to see what happened (ie it is no ones business but mine how the house looks and the town govt can go bleep themselves - the man was saying this on lawn as town condemned his house).
Now days it depresses me and reminds me Of those bad times. I prefer something upbeat. I watch sunsets/sunrises or scenery channels while I clean).
This is what I am watching from now until New Years in various forms - yule log
My favorite is happy cat and dog
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