MiSC
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Post by MiSC on Jan 16, 2010 23:21:42 GMT -5
I'm curious about this.
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Post by sparkle on Jan 17, 2010 0:12:09 GMT -5
I'll be surprised if you get anything other than 100% for option 1.
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Post by Rory on Jan 17, 2010 3:59:47 GMT -5
I've always had a tendancy to become depressed and have had periods of depression which have altered my life considerably. When I was depressed I could see no point in cleaning etc and my place became a worse mess down to 3 on the scale. Recently I've had treatment which has worked and am due for follow up treatment soon. I am grateful.
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Post by eternal on Jan 17, 2010 6:35:58 GMT -5
I've answered 'yes', but it's during the years that I haven't been depressed that my hoarding/squaloring has been worse.
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Post by Peach on Jan 17, 2010 11:27:47 GMT -5
My entire life has been defined by major depressive disorder (aka clinical depression). I finally sought medical treatment 5-6 years ago. This inherited condition came to me via my maternal side of the family.
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Post by MiSC on Jan 17, 2010 12:15:31 GMT -5
I've answered 'yes', but it's during the years that I haven't been depressed that my hoarding/squaloring has been worse. I don't think that would matter. I'm bipolar and have OCD and anxiety, but I'm medicated and those things are generally under control. Usually, anyway. But it was in this same kind of mental state when my squalor was at it's absolute worst. I'm not sure if that means hoarding is a (maybe genetic?) mental illness that isn't affected by the med regimen I'm on now, or if it's all psychological instead. |
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Post by hypatia on Jan 17, 2010 14:30:00 GMT -5
Yes, I've been affected by depression. And when I am depressed, the depression/squalor feed off of each other in a vicious cycle.
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Post by salmon on Jan 17, 2010 22:55:45 GMT -5
It makes sense to me that depression and squalor go hand in hand.
But when I have looked for information on the subject I come up with things like this, from the Hartford Hospital website:
"Compulsive hoarding, which may affect up to 2 million people in the United States, is often found in patients with other diseases, including dementia, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia and anorexia. It's most often seen in patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). Researchers aren't certain whether compulsive hoarding is a subtype of OCD or a separate disorder. "
I have depression, but none of the other diagnoses, including OCD. I don't know anyone with dementia, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia or anorexia who is also a hoarder.
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Jan 17, 2010 23:15:34 GMT -5
But when I have looked for information on the subject I come up with things like this, from the Hartford Hospital website:
"Compulsive hoarding, which may affect up to 2 million people in the United States, is often found in patients with other diseases, including dementia, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia and anorexia. It's most often seen in patients with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). Researchers aren't certain whether compulsive hoarding is a subtype of OCD or a separate disorder. " That's from Dr. David Tolin's clinic www.harthosp.org/InstituteOfLiving/AnxietyDisordersCenter/CompulsiveHoarding/default.aspxDr. Tolin is a specialist in "compulsive hoarding". -- For info regarding "squalor" causes, go here: www.squalorsurvivors.com/squalor/causes.shtmlAnd then also go here: www.squalorsurvivors.com/overcoming/yourself/index.shtmland then click on each of the links on left listed as: Self-worth Depression Perfectionism Demand-resistance Guilt Worry Indecision Goals --------- Some of us hoard, some of us live in squalor, some of us are cluttery, some of us are chronically disorganized, some of us have a combination of these tendencies. Each of us has different reasons why we have these issues. - |
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Post by bah on Jan 18, 2010 15:00:02 GMT -5
I haven't been to a dr about it. But... I can see cyles of ups and downs. Even the bloke has commented on them. Usually calm down, you know what happens after you are so 'up'.
I try to make use of the cycles. Get a lot done when up and try to maintain when down. When down, I close off and struggle to interact with my family and others. or I focus on the little kids and knitting. My knitting keeps me sane. Well, a step or two above/away from the egde of not coping.
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Post by recovering on Jan 18, 2010 16:33:03 GMT -5
Yes, when I was depressed is when my hoarding was worst. Getting rid of stuff seemed to help me also sort out the other causes of my depression and I don't have any major symptoms anymore.
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Post by MiSC on Jan 18, 2010 19:59:22 GMT -5
Hey -- "Other" person? Whoever you are out there? I don't suppose you'd be willing to expound, would you? I put it there because it's pretty much obligatory to have an "other" option, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it might be.
Just wondering. You obviously don't have to out yourself.
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Post by Fivecat on Jan 18, 2010 20:34:28 GMT -5
I've always had squalor, depressed or not, but, my very worst rock bottom was when i was depressed. I will say this, when I feel least depressed is when the house is nice and clean, so i dunno. What came first, the depression or the squalor? Fivecat
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Post by charis on Jan 18, 2010 21:53:23 GMT -5
I had full blown squalor for several years (1999-2002), and it was 100% due to depression. Too ashamed to admit it or seek help. When it started wearing off on its own I slowly gathered strength to clean house, get back in my kids school lives, get involved in church again, see friends outside of work, and lose 50 pounds (I got 30 of them back, though).
If I ever start getting depressed again I will run to the doctor and howl for therapy and medicine. Never again.
I cannot express how much I admire people who make changes even in the midst of depression, especially people who fight it for many years. I had to get better before I made changes, but I read a lot about people here who combine battling depression with coming out of squalor.
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Post by mardec on Jan 19, 2010 2:56:35 GMT -5
. I will say this, when I feel least depressed is when the house is nice and clean, so i dunno. What came first, the depression or the squalor? Fivecat This is me, as well. I have noticed over the years that the state of my home is one of the earliest signs that I'm heading into a depressive episode. Is the house getting worse because I'm depressed? Am I getting depressed because the house is getting worse? I don't know. I DO know that the two are definitely linked somehow! |
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