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Post by petrossian on Mar 19, 2010 14:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by MiSC on Mar 19, 2010 19:12:34 GMT -5
I LOVE this part: Are YOU a secret hoarder? Send us your pictures inside your house and we may show them on the air! (And they're offering absolutely nothing in return, of course.)
Ooo! Really? Yippee! Sign me up really fast, 'cause this just sounds too good to be true! Thank you for this opportunity, Larry!
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Post by charis on Mar 19, 2010 20:22:39 GMT -5
Aw, Misc, that is the first thing I noticed too. The guest Sanjaya Saxena is stating good facts in a non sensational way, but I am troubled by the host's approach --he is just ordering the family around: "Do this...Pick that up" etc modified to add name
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Post by charis on Mar 19, 2010 20:55:37 GMT -5
Now he is showing pictures a woman JUST emailed in of SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE!!!! Okay, it is her dad's house and she is having to deal with it due to his ill health, but still!!!!!
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Post by MiSC on Mar 19, 2010 21:25:22 GMT -5
Now he is showing pictures a woman JUST emailed in of SOMEONE ELSE'S HOUSE!!!! Okay, it is her dad's house and she is having to deal with it due to his ill health, but still!!!!! That's grounds for a lawsuit, in my world. Unless she has power of attorney she has absolutely no right to do that. She's far more disgusting than any of her father's mess is. I can tell you that with absolute certainty.
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Post by notsomessyshell on Mar 19, 2010 23:31:59 GMT -5
Sorry I missed this one. NOT.
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Post by tinasabrina on Mar 20, 2010 0:46:45 GMT -5
I caught the tail end of it and was at least glad that they stressed it is a mental health disorder and not just the L word and not about someone being a dirty person.
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Post by Butterfly on Mar 20, 2010 3:04:27 GMT -5
I just watched the replay and thought it was very well done. I am happy they treated the hoarders (and, by extension, me and all my fellow hoarders here) with such respect and dignity. Kudos to Jeff and all of his guests.
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Post by Script on Mar 20, 2010 9:00:18 GMT -5
I caught the tail end of it and was at least glad that they stressed it is a mental health disorder and not just the L word and not about someone being a dirty person. my mom told me that she saw this show (in part). she watches a lot of tv........ she stressed that they kept saying: "it's not a decision, it's a disease".....or something to that effect. she forgets details now.... she asked me how people can AFFORD to have so much stuff. She was of the [misguided] opinion that hoarders just go out to some nice store and buy tons of stuff. I reminded her that the piles of STUFF might be: *inheritance and contents of a family dwelling *thrift store bargoons *garage sale finds *packaging material *gifts *garbage *newspapers, magazines *dirty clothes *groceries not put away (can be hugely bulky) and so on.......... Since we have a family member [in-law] with hoarding problems, I think it was good for her to see this show. She is one of the folks who says, "Why don't they just throw it out?" one comment on the people who send in PIX of a family member's hoarding: although this is wrong and a violation of privacy, I UNDERSTAND the frustration and fear that children can have towards their parents' chaotic living conditions. We went through h*ll on wheels for several years with my grandmother {not true hoarding but her total denial of her need for in-home care}.
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Post by MiSC on Mar 20, 2010 9:41:37 GMT -5
I just watched the replay and thought it was very well done. I am happy they treated the hoarders (and, by extension, me and all my fellow hoarders here) with such respect and dignity. Kudos to Jeff and all of his guests. That's great then. I sas that "Send us your pictures inside your house and we may show them on the air!" part and got my hackles up. Glad it was informative.
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Post by tinasabrina on Mar 20, 2010 10:24:05 GMT -5
Prezzana I can understand your mom's question about how hoarders can afford to buy so many things but as you said, most of the time it's old inherited family belongings or predominantly, yard sale and thrift store finds. Brings to mind one episode of Hoarders I watched on A&E where they were trying to help this woman clean out her house and she wouldn't throw away a broken vacuum cleaner. She said "I might repair that and then I can sell it at a yard sale and get some money." The counselor/organizer said "When is the last time you had a yard sale?" She had to admit she couldn't remember when she'd EVER had a yard sale of her own but steadfastly couldn't let go of the broken vac. This was one of those episodes that ended without the person meeting their goal and they had to give up on her. Most of the stuff I'm seeing is stuff that has been laying around a while. And also I agree with whoever said they end up with bulk groceries that are set aside and never consumed. I can't tell you how many times I've 'double bought' things from the grocery because I purchased it, set it down somewhere, and it disappeared so I had to eventually go to the store and re-buy it.
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Mar 20, 2010 11:12:23 GMT -5
- I didn't see the episode. But I researched it online I found the transcript online -- Read the whole transcript here:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/lkl.01.htmlHere follows a list of everyone mentioned in the transcript: - Jeff Probst
Apparently, Larry King had the day off, so there was a substitute hosting the show for the evening.
Jeff Probst was the substitute host of this evening's Larry King show.
Jeff Probst is best-known as the 10-year host of the TV show "Survivor". (Not sure why he was asked to sub for Larry King for the evening).
The show was mostly live interviews with participants from the TLC network television series "Hoarding: Buried Alive" tlc.discovery.com/tv/hoarding-buried-alive/Participants from "Hoarding: Buried Alive" came on this Larry King interview, and also some of the loved ones of the participants. Also one of the professional organizers from "Hoarding: Buried Alive" appeared. They showed clips from each of the participant's episodes of "Hoarding: Buried Alive". Participants from four episodes were interviewed: - Laurie Gros, a participant
Appearing with Ms. Gros was the professional organizer from her episode ... Ellen Martin from "A New Leaf" anewleafpo.com/
- Kim Burke, a participant
and her husband Mike Burke, with their two sons Ryan and Dillon.
- A man named Chris who was the participant ... and also his girlfriend Annie Cefaratti.
- Cindy Carroll, a participant
In addition to all these people: - Near the end of the episode was the brief section from {quote} a viewer in California, who found out her dad was a hoarder after he ended up in the hospital. She writes that she found three bedrooms, two living rooms and a kitchen, all stacked to the rafters with junk. I don't know why he didn't ask for help and I don't know why he did this. It became my responsibility.{unquote}
NOTE: The last person interviewed is Cindy Carroll, a participant on "Hoarding: Buried Alive". Her interview seems very insightful. There is a brief interruption -- in the middle of Cindy Carroll's segment .. where the show does a short section on something completely unrelated! {quote}We're going to take a break from hoarding for a moment and meet a CNN hero, a one time crack addict and prison inmate, who transformed her life and has helped more than 400 other female offenders do the same.{unquote} A short video clip is shown and discussed briefly and then they go to commercial break. (I have no clue why this interruption was in the middle of the hoarding show). Then the show resumes with the rest of the hoarding interview with "Hoarding: Buried Alive" participant Cindy Carroll. -
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Post by Butterfly on Mar 20, 2010 12:24:58 GMT -5
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Post by sunnyday on Mar 20, 2010 17:11:35 GMT -5
Prezzana - I like your list of what can make up a hoarders mess. It made me think if I just threw out the trash and recycling and empty boxes half my job would be done. I don't know why it is so hard for me to get rid of things that obviously need to be walked out to the garbage or recycle. It is like they will magically fly out there on their own!
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Post by hopehope on Mar 20, 2010 21:42:10 GMT -5
I read -- more or less -- one of these saxena articles from lioness' links ---
does it not appear obvious -- hoarding doesn't respond to ocd treatment -- not because hoarders are obstreperous and non-cooperative, or something, but because it's not ocd. it's the wrong treatment, and the wrong name. duh.
speak of being obsessional -- they're so attached to their own classifications.. blame the victim.
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