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Post by phoenixcat on Mar 2, 2017 18:23:05 GMT -5
where DM lives the power department comes around and shaves off half of the tree away from the lines. So many trees look so sad and in my opinion - aren't very stable because with half the tree gone - I would think it would be susceptible to storm damage, become uprooted, fall over. Sometimes they trim a big V out of the middle. If DM knows in advance they are coming - she won't leave the house until they have showed up so she can yell at them the whole time And, she has made them come back multiple times to either fix it or remove the whole damaged tree on their dime. When they put in the power poles - both my parents kept moving the marker because the power company wanted to put it right in front of their walkway. So for weeks they fought with them until they finally moved the pole 10 feet over. I think they know DM's voice when she calls them So, I can imagine what it looks like and I'm sorry to hear that. I had a similar miscommunication with our gardener who left all the bushes that I need trimmed back intact and took a bunch more down to the roots. Sometimes people don't have the sense God gave a goose but then I think "am I insulting the goose?" Hugs PC
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Post by mouseanne on Mar 2, 2017 20:09:34 GMT -5
aww that's a shame. I'd be horrified too.
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Post by hiding on Mar 2, 2017 20:34:30 GMT -5
Don't even get me going on tree cutting. I have a major, MAJOR button on that. Tree trimming should be careful and thoughtful. People should not just thoughtlessly slash into the tree any more than a surgeon should just start cutting where ever. No, of course a tree is not a person but it is a living entity and should be approached with respect. Fooey! You were a lot nicer about what happened than I would be.
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Post by closetofchaos on Mar 2, 2017 21:51:15 GMT -5
They did the job wrong. They need to eat the cost. They're lucky you don't sue them. Why are they employing a mentally challenged person and giving him a chainsaw? This whole story is very disturbing to me on many levels.
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Post by catcat on Mar 2, 2017 23:22:37 GMT -5
I understand. I have burst into tears once or twice when a much loved tree was felled. Once it was a necessary thing & it was my neighbor's huge tree. I cried as it came down. Once, during a bad storm, I was watching out the back door & I screamed as our red Maple split in a most uneven , hideous way. Later my DH & son had to remove the rest of it. It was just like a big uneven stalk.We did get another & it is large now. I am so sorry for your experience. It wasn't just a tree; it was a part of your life.
Blessings, catcat
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Post by closetofchaos on Mar 3, 2017 0:41:00 GMT -5
H2H I am so upset for you! That was nice of you to hire that organization in the first place and it was the guy in charge of the special people who screwed it up??? Now the mess is an eyesore. He should pay for a crew to clean up his mess and your mess he now exposed because he wouldn't follow instructions.
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Post by closetofchaos on Mar 3, 2017 0:42:35 GMT -5
You may be within legal right to enforce that since the city may make you fix the eyesore he now exposed.
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Post by Fivecat on Mar 4, 2017 2:38:22 GMT -5
There are some lovely ideas online to dress up tree stumps. Give it a google and take a look.
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Post by notanotherdecade on Mar 4, 2017 16:46:01 GMT -5
Poor tree, hope it recovers from having so many branches removed While I agree that the stumps are a shocking site, the structure exposed has a natural elegance to it.. I can picture it being covered in charms. Decorative plaques could be nailed into the stumps, but evergreens can quickly cover the stump area. I'm not sure how well willow or hazel grow there,, in the right conditions you just ram their pruning into the ground and they root, Any shrub can be pruned and trained to grow at a low level, it takes time, but it could be an opportunity to change the character of your garden. Spring is coming, just the right time for garden projects , before the temperature gets too hot, and plants too thick with leaf. I do hope the tree can stay, there is something special about seeing the structure of a tree, maybe it is the primitive primate genes in me that go wow, and want to climb the tree...
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Post by peaceandfreedom on Mar 4, 2017 21:04:23 GMT -5
I too am a tree lover, and I have had some pretty severe losses to my beloved trees too over the years. So I can very much feel your pain. It brings back memories I still don't like to think about.
I am glad that from your window, it doesn't look so bad. Think you should take that into account when searching for solutions. You probably spend more time looking at the tree than anyone else will do.
In my area, there is a Master Gardeners program. They receive lots of knowledge and education, then they are required to give time and information to helping others who need help. They are run through the county extension service office. If you have something like that program in your area, it might be helpful to contact them and see what ideas they might have. It is a free service.
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Post by hiding on Mar 4, 2017 21:18:40 GMT -5
I think I know what the tree is but I can't see the leaves well enough. We'll see what the nursery says. If it is what I think it is you will be able to trim it all back and it will grow out nicely. Fingers crossed for you!
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Post by wynken on Mar 4, 2017 23:44:29 GMT -5
I hope there can be a flush of regrowth from the cut branches. Here many trees species would sprout a lot of branches from each of those cut branches.
Here people tie orchards onto trees though I have no idea of the climate where you are, and if that would work for you.
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Post by creativechaos on Mar 5, 2017 0:33:09 GMT -5
FIRST of all, H2H, i am crying along right with you! and furious! I AM a "real" gardener - did this as a profession most of my adult life - and this is butchery!!! - PLUS - they left huge stumps and stubs and took over half the trunks - a no-no. Even the healthiest most rambunctious trees or shrubs - the rule is, NEVER take more than 1/3 of the top or total growth out. If it's something like a dogwood, no more than 1/8 th. And no, it's a myth that you can shape any bush or tree to grow low. if a tree or bush wants to grow UP or TALL, you can't keep it low indefinitely. You eventually disfigure or kill it. What is this tree? Do you know the name of it? Some trees and shrubs can recover from this savagery. This one looks to be multi- trunked; that may be a good sign. It's hard to know what it is from the picture. But - the first thing that needs to happen is that all the stubs need to be cut back to where the cambium layer is, just past the main trunk each stub connects to - so that those huge wounds can heal and grow over; generally there is a "collar" where you cut to; hard to explain but i can show you in pictures. If you get an arborist, be sure that the company who did this to your tree will pay for that consultation. Plus - be warned! All arborists are not created equal either - some are butchers, some give up on trees when they don't need to, others milk you for every dollar needlessly. All are exhorbitantly expensive. A truly good "real" gardener can do as good as an arborist, because gardeners care and nurture plants and understand how they grow and how to prune. These guys knew NOTHING about trees OR pruning. If these stubs are not treated rightly, they will die back into the trunks and kill those trunks. This is severe and you may lose the tree. You will have to deal wish suckers (water sprouts) for several years. THAT SAID; with PROPER care you MIGHT be able to save this poor mutilated creature. If you can get a bigger more detailed picture and the name/variety of this, I can give you some advice so that whoever you hire is not going to do something you don't want. Something that is fascinating to know about trees: they never stop growing if you leave them unpruned. "mature size" simply means size at maturity. whatever rate they grow per year, they will continue at that rate until they die or until some idiot with a chainsaw kills them. Let me know if i can help. ETA: just read your latest post: Arbutis unedo! WOW! never seen one that size! Except, the bark color doesn't match; it should be more mahogany colored like arbutis or manzanitas. Do the fruits look like this? (see attachment below - they are about 1"to 1 1/4" big, blandly sweet. It can grow back with proper care. I like your idea of a fence hiding the damage (once they fix it properly) and - problem solved. This part will need some careful shaping as it grows back. But.... WHY oh why did they mangle it like this in the first place? With what was it interfering? www.plantamnesty.org/This is one of my favorite organizations; I have heard Cass Turnbull speak numerous times. I was shocked and saddened to find out just now that she died of a heart attack on Jan. 17. The organization will continue to do her good works. Plant Amnesty's mission: "Working to end the senseless torture and mutilation of trees and shrubs." Cass was passionate about her work, and saw what was happening with the whole "density craze" happening along with the destruction of trees - the same thing that is happening to our tiny island and our "urban growth area" - all these treeless areas are quickly becoming wind tunnels year-round, desertified wastelands in summer, and flood/mudslide zones in winter. Please think twice about cutting down your tree if it can be saved. Use your creative genius and ingenuity to come up with an attractive solution for hiding the lower butchery until things grow back, if at all possible.
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Post by creativechaos on Mar 5, 2017 23:10:01 GMT -5
(((((((((((((((hugs, H2H))))))))))))))))) i completely understand this rant, and the grief involved in seeing your 'old friend' the strawberry tree, getting this horrid treatment - and the anger that follows the hurt whenever you have to look at the poor thing. i'm here if you need me. you have a pretty good idea on how to handle this. i too think this tree/shrub can be saved with long term care... sure wish i lived closer. i'm picturing your making an incredibly funky and beautiful Dan Phillips-type of recycled "fence" (thank you for turning me on to him and his very cool recycled houses!) - to hide the worst ugliness. and maybe some cool planters. i hope this company does right by you - and soon! if not, then your idea of the sign on the mangled limbs might be effective.
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Post by hiding on Mar 7, 2017 0:58:30 GMT -5
Is that the outfit's real name? If their name is Developed Employment Services, they have a Facebook page of their own. If the photo is any indication of their work attitude, I wouldn't trust them with a *** thing. Maybe they are not a bunch of clowns as the photo suggests. If not, they need to think about re-doing their business advertising photo! If they don't do right by you, get on the internet and tell what happened on places like Yelp,Facebook, Craig's list if you have a local one, etc.
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