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Post by merrymaid on Jun 27, 2008 9:22:04 GMT -5
I was wondering if we could have a members only journal board?
What do you all think?
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Post by pegasus48 on Jun 27, 2008 12:01:35 GMT -5
I think that is a brilliant idea!  |
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Post by dragonchilde on Jun 27, 2008 13:13:01 GMT -5
what about the livejournal community? That's basically what it is.  |
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Jun 27, 2008 22:05:20 GMT -5
- I think Merrymaid has a good idea. I have visited the Live Journal community. community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/profileAnd I've read the posts there on the community page, as well as the personal private blogs of individual members who have invited me. But I find it very tiring to click on each journal to read, and to I find Live Journal to be slow-loading on my antiquated computer. And then remembering to set privacy settings for every post I make? That's hard. So I have an account there, but have written nothing at all. I liked it when there was blog area on Squalor Survivors. I could just go to forums, read there, then go to blogs and read ... all on one site. Simple. For someone like me, who reads every day ... well... during the past month, I've tried going back and forth between SOS and livejournal, and reading each day... I've spent twice the time. The livejournal pages take longer to load due to advertising. (I have an ad-blocker in my browser, but it still takes to time to process the blocking). [editing to clarify: it's also those snap.com previews of what's inside a post ... for some reason my browser doesn't handle that well. I set my ad-blocker to block those previews and that helps somewhat, but it is still slow. (I have an antiquated computer with very little available memory and an out-of-date graphics card. I am saving money for an upgrade, but it will be several months before it will happen.). So, it's not just advertising, but all the extra graphical features which would be cool on a modern computer but don't work well on my old machine.] I've just spent too much time reading in past month -- or rather... too much time clicking and navigating in order to read. I don't know if I want to continue all this going back and forth. I have a slow computer and a slow connection. When everything was on one site at SS, I read much faster and was done sooner. I've given Live Journal a chance. I've gone there everyday to practice learning how to read and navigate. Learned all sorts of new things like "friending" ... but it seems so complicated. I really am trying to learn it. Read FAQs, asked questions. tried different menus. But it seems that navigating between friends journals would be time-consuming even for an experienced user. These forums are fast-loading and easy to use. I would much rather read bloggish personal threads here. This question was brought up here: takeonestepatatime.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=questions&action=display&thread=432There are some suggestions there, too. [editing to add: Okay, so I was whining and ranting. Sorry about that. The live journal community is fine. It's just not for me. I didn't need to whine about it. I guess I just wish we were all in one place like we used to be.] - |
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Post by merrymaid on Jun 28, 2008 7:23:54 GMT -5
I haven't visited LJ since it was opened (other than to look at Dragonchilde's beautiful children,) and didn't realize that it was also a blog site! It was very confusing to me, so I never got use to it. I'm sure if I stayed long enough I could have learned to love it. What I was talking about was more like a journal and not like a blog, but using LJ would be okay, too. I didn't realize we're divided in two  I thought everyone had come here. Thank you for posting the link, CouragelyLion, to the post were journals were discussed; I'd missed that one! What if we had a journal board, which some of us could use and those who use LJ could post a link directly to their blogs at LJ. I would read them, if there was a direct link. Just a few thoughts and either way is fine with me. I'm so very grateful that we have a place to be. |
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Post by dragonchilde on Jun 28, 2008 8:31:43 GMT -5
I can actually offer you some advice to simplify the process; you don't have to click on each journal... that's what your friends' page is for! Yours is here, lion ( serenitylioness.livejournal.com/friends) It gathers all the people you want to read on one page. You can also add communities. If you don't want to see every single person on your friends' list, you can set up filters and special groups and just view those. As for privacy settings, you can also set your journal default. Mine is set to default to friends-only, for example, and I only have to change it if I want to make it a public post. I believe toss_siblings is also set to default to friends-only, as well. I like merry maid's idea of a journal area where we could post links... I have too many journals as it is to bother starting yet another one.  That's one reason I was so thrilled about toss_siblings! (Edited to get link to work) |
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Post by pegasus48 on Jun 28, 2008 12:22:03 GMT -5
For some reason, I always had a problem with navigating in lj. I would like to have a journal area here where members could either blog or provide their link to their lj blog.
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Post by kitrin on Jun 29, 2008 2:15:23 GMT -5
- But I find it very tiring to click on each journal to read, and to I find Live Journal to be slow-loading on my antiquated computer. - You know you do not have to click each persons journal right? once you have friended someone they are on your friends page and you can just scroll through them. You can chose to read different filters at a time. When I am in a rush I read my communities to get an idea of what is going on and when I have more time I click on view all and read just them. |
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Post by SueDonym on Jun 29, 2008 12:42:56 GMT -5
I have tried LJ a few times in the past. I have never liked the set up. I don't find it to be intuitive or very user-friendly. I'd much prefer to have a journal forum here than go there. Basically, I avoid LJ so I would definitely NOT have one. That's why I was so disappointed that LJ was the first place for a new SS home to be set up, and I was very relieved that this board came along.
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Post by angelinahedgehog on Jun 29, 2008 13:23:50 GMT -5
Can you explain what you're looking for? The mods will need to discuss this, but I'm not getting a great sense of what you want. It doesn't look as if proboards has a journal feature the way community server did. We could set up a forum and call it "journals", if you want, but I'm not sure if that would fulfill your wishes. People could post daily journal entries (actually, it would look a lot like ListZilla, now that I'm thinking of it), but if someone posts to LJ, their "here's my LJ URL" post would fairly quickly drop to the bottom of the list, which would mean that it wouldn't be useful in seeing what's going on with them. That could be avoided, I suppose, if people posted to LJ and turned around and posted an "I posted to LJ, and here's the URL of the post" message to the Journals forum, but that's more work for the post writer. I know that I wouldn't bother. Also, I have to wonder how easy it would be to catch up on someone's posts. If a person writes a starting journal entry for the month of July and then replies to it every day, well, it's easy, sort of, to keep up with that person. If I visit in August, I just click on the link for that person's July posts, and I can see all the posts and the comments that others have made. But if the person starts a new thread for each day, then it'll be more work to locate that person's posts. In short... The forums aren't really meant to be journals. (Just as journals aren't really meant to be forums, which is why LJ communities are not an entirely happy substitute for forums like proboards.com.) The forums can mimic some aspects of journals, but it would be good to know which aspects are the important ones. For LJ, here's an easy way to do it: log into LJ and go to community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/friends . That'll let you see the personal journal posts (public and friends-only, if you're a friend) for all the members of TOSS Siblings. Anyway, if you can come to a solid consensus of what you would like the "journal forum" to do and be, the mods can discuss it and see if it's possible. |
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Post by merrymaid on Jun 29, 2008 18:15:44 GMT -5
I was thinking of a journal set up like KrazyKatLady posted.
We would make a journal and use it until it was so big, we need to make a new one (not daily, probably monthly or longer.)
For the links to the LJ journals, maybe we could make it a sticky, where it is always at the top. People could add to it, but it wouldn't fall to bottom like unused journals would, if no one added to it in a while.
If we go forward with the journal pages, maybe we could have photos there too? I don't know, what do you all think?
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Jun 29, 2008 21:35:18 GMT -5
I can actually offer you some advice to simplify the process; you don't have to click on each journal... that's what your friends' page is for! Yours is here, lion (serenitylioness.livejournal.com/friends) It gathers all the people you want to read on one page. You can also add communities. If you don't want to see every single person on your friends' list, you can set up filters and special groups and just view those. You know you do not have to click each persons journal right?
once you have friended someone they are on your friends page and you can just scroll through them. You can choose to read different filters at a time. When I am in a rush I read my communities to get an idea of what is going on and when I have more time I click on view all and read just them. Thanks Dragonchilde and Kitrin. I did know about my "friends page". I've been going there every day for 6 weeks, just as you described. For LJ, here's an easy way to do it: log into LJ and go to community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/friends. That'll let you see the personal journal posts (public and friends-only, if you're a friend) for all the members of TOSS Siblings. Angelina, I did know about reading the "friends of Toss_Siblings page". I've been reading that every day also. But I do appreciate that Dragonchilde and Kitrin and Angelina made all this info available in this thread, because I am sure this is new info for many. Many of us are experiencing LiveJournal for the first time, and are just learning how to navigate. My issue with "clicking on people's journals" being awkward for me ... well I explained it badly. What I meant to say is that I liked the old layout of the Squalor Survivors blogs, in the main blog page showed only showed just the name of the entry and the first two lines of the entry .... all in a row like this: username: MissBlogger
June 30, 2008
Today I went to a job interview. I also talked with Harold about cleaning the porch. (click to read more)
username: MrJournalist
June 29, 2008
Today we washed the kitchen floor for the first time ever. It was really a crappy task, but I am glad we.... (click to read more)
username: MsWriter
June 28, 2008
I am in a horrible mood. My hormones are acting up and my boss hates me and .. (click to read more)
username: MissBlogger
June 28, 2008
Wow it's been a long time since I've written in my blog. What's been happening with me? Let's see .. (click to read more) All the blog entry excerpts were in a vertical row in date order. but only in EXCERPTS. I could easily scan down the rows and see what was going on with people, and just click on ones I wanted to read further of . In LiveJournal currently, most of our squaloree friends post full long entries. So I have to scroll down aways to see who's written what, and I often miss things. It would be easier for my reading purposes (for my convenience,  ) if everyone used the "LJ cut" www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=75That would give things a similar feel to how blogs were set up in the Squalor Survivors blog area. I have browsed some random blogs on LJ, and seen how people set up their own personal yet public blog that way -- with LJcuts for each entry. I can scan through their list of excerpts like a "Menu" and click on posts that look interesting. (provided their first sentence catches my eye!). If the Toss Siblings community was set up so that all the posts from various members were in LJ cuts ... I'd find it easier to scan. Like reading book titles on the edge of a book on a shelf... instead of all the books lying open on the table. Of course I'd also find it easier if each of my friends set up their own personal (non-toss-sibling) blog with a LJ cut format, too -- so that it would display similarly on my Friends Page. ..... But I cannot ask that .... because one point of having a Personal Journal is that it's PERSONAL. .. each person sets it up the way that pleases herself/himself. Okay... sorry for the lengthy explanation.... but I wanted to clarify why I was complaining about my need to clicking on each journal. I realize that I don't NEED to click on each person's journal to read their most recent entries. I can just scroll through a long series of posts on my own friends page or on the friends-of-toss-siblings page. But I have found that hard... because all the posts displayed in full make a large scroll, and I am not sure if I missed whether MissBlogger posted today or not .... so I end up just going to her journal's site to see what she's written most recently. I realize this is off-topic from Merrymaid's original point of this thread. Just explaining the tangential topic of my complaints about LiveJournal. - |
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Jun 29, 2008 21:47:35 GMT -5
- Okay... Now back to the original topic of this thread... ... what about a journal board here on SOS? Angelina asked for examples of what we might want here. I like what KrazyKatLady suggested. Very much. And as each Blog is a continuous thread ... the thread titles appear in a menu, as she displayed in the graphic. Easy to click on the thread you want to read. Angelina, please read the suggestions from CanDo and me -- on this thread: takeonestepatatime.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=questions&action=display&thread=432Maybe that will give you an idea of what I envision here? Those ideas on that thread are very similar to KKL's idea, but detailed in various ways. --- As far as linking to one's blog on LJ, why not simply put it in one's SOS signature, as dragonchilde has just done? Or perhaps some may want their LJ blog address only visible to registered members ... so therefore you wouldn't want the URL in your signature on posts on the publicly viewable General or ListZilla boards? If that were a concern, then I like Merrymaid's idea of a sticky at the top of the "blog board". It could be set up in alpha order by username ... just like the sticky on the general board of Little_Ninja's birthday thread which is set up in birthday order. Lioness - |
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Post by eagle on Jun 29, 2008 22:26:05 GMT -5
For LJ, here's an easy way to do it: log into LJ and go to community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/friends. That'll let you see the personal journal posts (public and friends-only, if you're a friend) for all the members of TOSS Siblings. AH, the page I get from that link says I am not authorized to view that page. But here is another link that works for me, but won't for you because it includes my user name: eagle-earlene.livejournal.com/friends/So for whoever, just replace your username in the place where my user name is: i.e.; http:// your name here.livejournal.com/friends/ |
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Jun 29, 2008 22:36:55 GMT -5
For LJ, here's an easy way to do it: log into LJ and go to community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/friends. That'll let you see the personal journal posts (public and friends-only, if you're a friend) for all the members of TOSS Siblings. AH, the page I get from that link says I am not authorized to view that page. Earlene, Angelina's link does work but you have to be 1) logged onto LJ 2) then go to the Toss_Siblings page at community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/3) THEN go click on "Friends" on upper right under words "recent entries" which brings you to community.livejournal.com/toss_siblings/friendsThat will bring you to more pages of members of Toss Siblings. These are personal journal pages of people who have "friended" Toss Siblings but may not have specifically friended YOU. And also to public pages of members of Toss Siblings. _ |
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