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Post by StuffNoMore on Dec 11, 2009 20:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by houseworkhater on Dec 11, 2009 20:55:48 GMT -5
Another Italian-American here who did not find it a slur.
DON'T LEAVE, SCRIPT!
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Post by threeg on Dec 11, 2009 21:25:11 GMT -5
I agree....Script has always joked about her ethnicity, and it never bothered any of us a bit. Attacking a member for a joke is not what we are about here at all. 3g
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Post by brightbeginning on Dec 11, 2009 21:34:53 GMT -5
Oh no-I have had a horrible, depressing day, and now I read THIS!!!! I have been accustomed to Script's writings ever since the Squalor Survivors board, and even back THEN she was using the term "Eye-talian", and guess what-I am 100% Italian and it never bothered me one bit!! I knew that Script's husband was Italian, but I just went back to read her response, and I didn't know that she is too. So how can it be an ethnic slur when her and her husband are Italian?? It doesn't make sense. Script-DON'T LEAVE US because a few people were offended. Why would you do that? I'm sure many of us on here say things that are taken the wrong way at times. Do you know just how many people love you here?? PLEASE rethink your decision because I ALWAYS look forward to your answers, but unfortunately I don't see you around too much anymore on the general board, by-ways, or the intros. PLEASE RECONSIDER!!!!
Debi
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Post by Rennie Ellen on Dec 11, 2009 21:47:03 GMT -5
Gathering everyone at the holiday table....passing out apple cider, hot cocoa with marshmallows, and eggnog....a Dean Martin Christmas CD is playing on the stereo....
NOW. EVERYONE HUG AND MAKE UP!!!!  
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Post by fluffychild on Dec 11, 2009 21:55:06 GMT -5
We love you, Script. We need you here. You have always encouraged me on in my journey to escape from what I am in. Sometimes, when I would post, I knew that Auntie Script
was there with her encouraging and kind words. Please stay.
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Post by Little_Ninja on Dec 11, 2009 22:00:22 GMT -5
Script knows I love her! I read the other thread, and what bothers me is that Script does not sound like her old self. I think she must be going through some personal crisis that just pushed her over the edge with this stupid debate about language, political-correctness (yawn!), and what offends or doesn't offend a person (BIG yawn!). Script's a strong, smart lady. She's a role model for me. And she can do whatever she wants. She can leave. She can leave and come back. She can relinquish her role as a moderator and leave. Or she can relinquish her role as a moderator and pop by every-now-and-then and post a thread or reply to a thread, or read a thread but not reply to a thread (have I covered all the options?) Basically, she can do whatever she wants.All I know is, I will always admire and respect her. That will never change! I love you Scriptkins!   Little_Ninja |
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Post by timetochange on Dec 11, 2009 22:00:59 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who was here longest, who has helped who, or how long people have gotten used to anyone using any number of names.
I was SHOCKED to see her (Script's) over reaction and lash out! She was (no matter how well liked or loved or senior on here) completely out of line and took it out on someone else.
Who she is or has been does not excuse that kind of lash out. Period. Admins should NOT take out years of frustrations over something on someone who asks why they needed to throw in a "slur" when it had nothing to do with a post.
Since I am not a real old timer that doesn't want to rock the boat or someone who has gotten "used to" the way another person talks, I will stand up too. You can all hate me for that now too.
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Post by morethanyouneed on Dec 11, 2009 22:02:26 GMT -5
Honestly, did any of you bother to read my post? I didn't attack anyone. Are any of you bothering to be an informed participant in this? Have any of you bothered to look at my posting history? Have you read my contributions to this board? Have I not been an active participant here with kind words and advice where I can give it? answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091201064745AATsHmx"In America and many other nations, Italians have also been stereotyped as swarthy perpetual foreigners in a lower class, restricted to blue collar jobs. They have been stereotyped working as construction workers, chefs, beggars, peddlers, plumbers, and in other working class jobs." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism) Here is what I've gathered from your posts...so long as the MAJORITY of posters do not feel something is an ethnic slur - it isn't. Being politically correct isn't about being sensitive and taking history into account - it's about being uptight and taking the fun out of everything. In spite of the inclusive vibe of this place, if I read something that could be or in fact IS offensive, I should keep my mouth shut because I don't understand the context or I don't have enough personal knowledge to have an opinion. And so long as the majority of the posters don't see a problem - there isn't one. According to the lot of you, words don't hurt. Words don't have meaning. If you suggest otherwise, you are overreacting. You all claim to feel great disdain for what you call "political correctness." Funny, what you call PC I call common courtesy and treating people with dignity. Script could have apologised, explained her use of the word and moved on. She could have shown sensitivity for having used an offensive word, but she chose not to. She opted to flip her lid and rant about things that had nothing to do with the point I was making. Ah, but I'm taking myself too seriously! I should just relax! Gosh, making a mountain out of a molehill, huh?! (Edit: Paragraph using racial slurs to prove a point removed. )No big deal, right? We're all friends here! Yes, let's go back to the good old days, where you can use any word you'd like without apology or thought for other's feelings. None of you know my genetic makeup, none of you know what religion I follow...any of the words I used could be okay because they might describe me. And if nothing else, I've learned here that you may take ownership of a word and use it without pause so long as the words describes you. Oh, and since words don't hurt...since you shouldn't take offence if you read a word you don't like, since you should just walk away if you read something that stings (as you're all telling me I should have done) I'll just get it all out. To the ignorant, the lazee, the self-absorbed - stick to this board...you need others just like you. Don't rock the boat, don't have feelings of your own unless there are 20 people throwing dancing bananas at you and whatever you do - stay ignorant and don't let anyone make you feel accountable for your own actions. God bless y'all...it's been a blast. I'll leave so that people like Script might continue on their path to authentic, compassionate living. Edit: Paragraph using numerous racial slurs to prove a point removed at the request of several members who felt it violated our TOS. |
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Post by timetochange on Dec 11, 2009 22:03:38 GMT -5
Well if you are reading through Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slursI would like to point out that not knowing something is a slur and your family using it doesn't make it right for everyone. In the same way that some of my African American friends call each other "N_____", doesn't make it right for anyone too. People will find offense... there is no need to fly off the handle and attack over it when you are called on it. |
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Post by Rennie Ellen on Dec 11, 2009 22:08:23 GMT -5
morethanyouneed,
We've been nothing but civil and polite with you. The only one attacking here is YOU.
Script has done nothing to apologize FOR. Did you bother to READ her post and the context in it? There was NOTHING demeaning or derogatory. Goodness, Sly Stallone used the very same term in the Rocky movies, so obviously it didn't bother him.
So don't let the door hit your behind on the way out.
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Post by moggyfan on Dec 11, 2009 22:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Dec 11, 2009 22:13:09 GMT -5
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Please don't castigate morethanyouneed.
Morethanyouneed was speaking her truth.
Script was speaking her truth.
I still want ALL the members to stay.
I am here to learn.
I wasn't aware that it was considered a slur by some. Because I've never heard it used anywhere by anybody.
I am now informed. As I said, I am here to learn. And I am sad that feelings were hurt.
Each of us is equally worthy of respect.
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Post by CourageouslyLion SeeksSerenity on Dec 11, 2009 22:15:35 GMT -5
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Moggyfan, You know I love you and owe you gratitude for a favor you once did me.
But ... I get really upset that whenever a member gets upset, you post the "flounce" link.
This is NOT a baseball or knitting forum.
People have no other desqualoring forum to go to.
Let's NOT make fun of people for wanting to leave.
Geez moggyfan.
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Post by Rennie Ellen on Dec 11, 2009 22:29:08 GMT -5
CL,Please don't castigate morethanyouneed. Morethanyouneed was speaking her truth. Script was speaking her truth. I still want ALL the members to stay. I am here to learn. I wasn't aware that it was considered a slur by some. Because I've never heard it used anywhere by anybody. I am now informed. As I said, I am here to learn. And I am sad that feelings were hurt. Each of us is equally worthy of respect. 
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